# Instant SEPA payments

**URL:** <https://bisq.community/t/instant-sepa-payments/1871>\
**Category:** Uncategorized\
**Created:** [April 18, 2017, 2:45pm UTC](https://bisq.community/t/instant-sepa-payments/1871 "2017-04-18T14:45:05Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 8\
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**Author:** ![ManfredKarrer](https://bisq.community/user_avatar/bisq.community/manfredkarrer/32/26_2.png) [@ManfredKarrer](https://bisq.community/u/ManfredKarrer)\
**Post date:** [April 18, 2017, 2:45pm UTC](https://bisq.community/t/instant-sepa-payments/1871/1 "2017-04-18T14:45:05Z")

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As Twitter user flix1 posted we should look into instant SEPA payments.  
Can anyone have a look into options? APIs would be great but I fear there will be some limitations we cannot fulfill…

> <https://twitter.com/flix1/status/854293366691024896>

[http://www.europeanpaymentscouncil.eu/index.cfm/sepa-instant-payments/what-are-instant-payments/?platform=hootsuite](http://www.europeanpaymentscouncil.eu/index.cfm/sepa-instant-payments/what-are-instant-payments/?platform=hootsuite)

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**Author:** ![HostFat](https://bisq.community/user_avatar/bisq.community/hostfat/32/62_2.png) [@HostFat](https://bisq.community/u/HostFat)\
**Post date:** [April 18, 2017, 3:03pm UTC](https://bisq.community/t/instant-sepa-payments/1871/2 "2017-04-18T15:03:52Z")

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I think that it is still not active  
[http://www.europeanpaymentscouncil.eu/index.cfm/sepa-instant-payments/sepa-instant-credit-transfer-sct-inst/](http://www.europeanpaymentscouncil.eu/index.cfm/sepa-instant-payments/sepa-instant-credit-transfer-sct-inst/)

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**Author:** ![mepistol](https://bisq.community/user_avatar/bisq.community/mepistol/32/39_2.png) [@mepistol](https://bisq.community/u/mepistol)\
**Post date:** [April 18, 2017, 5:53pm UTC](https://bisq.community/t/instant-sepa-payments/1871/3 "2017-04-18T17:53:37Z")

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It seems to be planned only:  
[http://www.europeanpaymentscouncil.eu/index.cfm/sepa-instant-payments/epc-work-on-instant-payments/](http://www.europeanpaymentscouncil.eu/index.cfm/sepa-instant-payments/epc-work-on-instant-payments/)

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**Author:** ![erizo](https://bisq.community/user_avatar/bisq.community/erizo/32/742_2.png) [@erizo](https://bisq.community/u/erizo)\
**Post date:** [November 17, 2017, 9:45pm UTC](https://bisq.community/t/instant-sepa-payments/1871/4 "2017-11-17T21:45:41Z")

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Start instant bank transfers in Europe! The delay of 24 H disappears. We will need to enable a new type of payment in Bisq: SEPA instantaneous, to identify the bank accounts that have this possibility.

> **[List of European entities that will apply instant transfers as of November 21,...](http://en.zappingnews.net/european-entities-list-apply-instant-transfers/)**
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> The Spanish entities are at the end of the PDF, pages 48 to 53. ING appears as a Dutch bank as ING Bank NV.

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**Author:** ![ManfredKarrer](https://bisq.community/user_avatar/bisq.community/manfredkarrer/32/26_2.png) [@ManfredKarrer](https://bisq.community/u/ManfredKarrer)\
**Post date:** [November 17, 2017, 11:51pm UTC](https://bisq.community/t/instant-sepa-payments/1871/5 "2017-11-17T23:51:38Z")

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Is there a list of banks which support it? What is the timeframe until all sepa banks support it (if there is any)?

EDIT: Ah after checking the link. Seems most banks support is very soon. Just Germany is a year delayed. But seems the list is not containing all SEPA countries and in some countries there are just a few banks.

But as soon it starts I will add a new payment method for it. Users need to know if their bank supports it or not.

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**Author:** ![ManfredKarrer](https://bisq.community/user_avatar/bisq.community/manfredkarrer/32/26_2.png) [@ManfredKarrer](https://bisq.community/u/ManfredKarrer)\
**Post date:** [November 19, 2017, 2:01pm UTC](https://bisq.community/t/instant-sepa-payments/1871/6 "2017-11-19T14:01:21Z")

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Can anyone research the SEPA instant payments options in regard for Bisq?

- do they have the same mandatory fields like SEPA (iban, bic, name, country)
- Is BIC needed actually? ( i think some countries/banks still need it)
- Do you can send between normal SEPA and SEPA instant payment? I assume so but prob the duration is then like SEPA.
- If there is a service/database for IBAN - SEPA instant payment support we could automatically check if the bank is really supporting it already. Is there such a database?
- Any changes in chargeback policy in comparison to SEPA?
- Anything else?

As soon we have all information we can add it and make a new release.

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**Author:** ![riclas](https://bisq.community/user_avatar/bisq.community/riclas/32/27_2.png) [@riclas](https://bisq.community/u/riclas)\
**Post date:** [November 20, 2017, 1:48am UTC](https://bisq.community/t/instant-sepa-payments/1871/7 "2017-11-20T01:48:52Z")

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These instant transfers will only be available next month in 8 SEPA countries. the rest of the countries should adhere by the end of 2018. I don’t foresee any changes to the user interface in banks as far as i’ve read.  
All banks are also supposed to have APIs by the end of 2018.

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**Author:** ![BtflHmstr](https://bisq.community/user_avatar/bisq.community/btflhmstr/32/729_2.png) [@BtflHmstr](https://bisq.community/u/BtflHmstr)\
**Post date:** [November 22, 2017, 8:03am UTC](https://bisq.community/t/instant-sepa-payments/1871/8 "2017-11-22T08:03:13Z")

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Hey everyone,

if someone wants to do the research, here’s a good starting point:

SEPA INSTANT CREDIT TRANSFER (SCT INST) SCHEME RULEBOOK

> **[EPC004-16%202017%20SCT%20Instant%20Rulebook%20v1.1.pdf](https://www.europeanpaymentscouncil.eu/sites/default/files/kb/file/2017-10/EPC004-16%202017%20SCT%20Instant%20Rulebook%20v1.1.pdf)**

QUESTIONS & ANSWERS ON THE SEPA INSTANT CREDIT TRANSFER  
SCHEME:

> **[EPC090-16%20v2.0\_QA\_SCT%20Inst%20scheme\_Updated%20November%202017.pdf](https://www.europeanpaymentscouncil.eu/sites/default/files/kb/file/2017-11/EPC090-16%20v2.0_QA_SCT%20Inst%20scheme_Updated%20November%202017.pdf)**

EPC LIST OF SEPA SCHEME COUNTRIES:

> **[EPC409-09%20EPC%20List%20of%20SEPA%20Scheme%20Countries%20v2%204%20-%20April%202016.pdf](https://www.europeanpaymentscouncil.eu/sites/default/files/KB/files/EPC409-09%20EPC%20List%20of%20SEPA%20Scheme%20Countries%20v2%204%20-%20April%202016.pdf)**

Regards
