# Is it possible/planned to add GoldMoney support?

**URL:** <https://bisq.community/t/is-it-possible-planned-to-add-goldmoney-support/1018>\
**Category:** Payment methods\
**Created:** [December 16, 2016, 10:46pm UTC](https://bisq.community/t/is-it-possible-planned-to-add-goldmoney-support/1018 "2016-12-16T22:46:28Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 14\
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**Author:** ![StefanGruber](https://bisq.community/letter_avatar/stefangruber/32/6_22734026db12803ebb3e059622ac3534.png) [@StefanGruber](https://bisq.community/u/StefanGruber)\
**Post date:** [December 16, 2016, 10:46pm UTC](https://bisq.community/t/is-it-possible-planned-to-add-goldmoney-support/1018/1 "2016-12-16T22:46:28Z")

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I think the title says it all: Is it planned (if possible) to add [GoldMoney.com](http://GoldMoney.com) as a payment-option?

Having gold as a currency and GoldMoney as one of possibly many payment processors that deal in gold would be cool.

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**Author:** ![alf](https://bisq.community/letter_avatar/alf/32/6_22734026db12803ebb3e059622ac3534.png) [@alf](https://bisq.community/u/alf)\
**Post date:** [December 17, 2016, 9:45am UTC](https://bisq.community/t/is-it-possible-planned-to-add-goldmoney-support/1018/2 "2016-12-17T09:45:47Z")

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Very Interesting!

How does the transfer work? Meaning what information are needed for a transfer, name, telno., email, … ?  
What is the risk of transaction reversal?

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**Author:** ![StefanGruber](https://bisq.community/letter_avatar/stefangruber/32/6_22734026db12803ebb3e059622ac3534.png) [@StefanGruber](https://bisq.community/u/StefanGruber)\
**Post date:** [December 17, 2016, 12:31pm UTC](https://bisq.community/t/is-it-possible-planned-to-add-goldmoney-support/1018/3 "2016-12-17T12:31:01Z")

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You login, click on “Send Gold”, choose the unit of account (Euros, Dollars, Grams of Gold), then enter the e-mail address, phone number or contact name of the recipient and that’s it. If the person doesn’t have a GoldMoney account yet, I think he just gets notified that so and so much gold is waiting for him.

I don’t know about the risk of transaction reversal. I’m going to ask the GoldMoney-support about that.

Edit: Here’s the official support page on how to send money. [https://support.goldmoney.com/customer/en/portal/articles/1998190-sending-gold-with-goldmoney](https://support.goldmoney.com/customer/en/portal/articles/1998190-sending-gold-with-goldmoney)

GoldMoney could then also be used as yet another payment processor to transfer fiat, as well as adding the “currency” gold.

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**Author:** ![lothar](https://bisq.community/user_avatar/bisq.community/lothar/32/320_2.png) [@lothar](https://bisq.community/u/lothar)\
**Post date:** [December 17, 2016, 3:46pm UTC](https://bisq.community/t/is-it-possible-planned-to-add-goldmoney-support/1018/4 "2016-12-17T15:46:26Z")

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This could be quite interesting. I would also look at [vaultoro.com](http://vaultoro.com).

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**Author:** ![ManfredKarrer](https://bisq.community/user_avatar/bisq.community/manfredkarrer/32/26_2.png) [@ManfredKarrer](https://bisq.community/u/ManfredKarrer)\
**Post date:** [December 17, 2016, 8:51pm UTC](https://bisq.community/t/is-it-possible-planned-to-add-goldmoney-support/1018/5 "2016-12-17T20:51:51Z")

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Thanks! indeed very interesting. If anyone can work out all the details and define clearly what is needed in a Bitsquare account (mandatory data fields) I can try to push it into the next release. I am too busy with other things (DAO) to work on that myself.

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**Author:** ![StefanGruber](https://bisq.community/letter_avatar/stefangruber/32/6_22734026db12803ebb3e059622ac3534.png) [@StefanGruber](https://bisq.community/u/StefanGruber)\
**Post date:** [December 21, 2016, 5:21pm UTC](https://bisq.community/t/is-it-possible-planned-to-add-goldmoney-support/1018/6 "2016-12-21T17:21:57Z")

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Today I’ve got a response from the [GoldMoney.com](http://GoldMoney.com) Support team. I quote:

> Yes, transfers are final, unless you are sending gold to a business and have a valid payment dispute with them regarding a product. If you send a transfer to a person who has not yet registered and they do not register within 72 hours, the funds will revert to your account.

Looks perfect in terms of Bitcoin-integration 😀

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**Author:** ![StefanGruber](https://bisq.community/letter_avatar/stefangruber/32/6_22734026db12803ebb3e059622ac3534.png) [@StefanGruber](https://bisq.community/u/StefanGruber)\
**Post date:** [December 21, 2016, 5:25pm UTC](https://bisq.community/t/is-it-possible-planned-to-add-goldmoney-support/1018/7 "2016-12-21T17:25:53Z")

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> [@ManfredKarrer](#):
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> define clearly what is needed in a Bitsquare account (mandatory data fields)

E-Mail and/or mobile phone number. If the user wants to use a mobile phone number, the person must be sure to be able to send and receive SMS text messages to and from that number. No landlines.

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**Author:** ![marc](https://bisq.community/letter_avatar/marc/32/6_22734026db12803ebb3e059622ac3534.png) [@marc](https://bisq.community/u/marc)\
**Post date:** [December 21, 2016, 6:02pm UTC](https://bisq.community/t/is-it-possible-planned-to-add-goldmoney-support/1018/8 "2016-12-21T18:02:31Z")

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Thanks for your effort.

Can you please check if there is an https:// (and you see a green or grey padlock, i.e. the site must be trusted by your browser) - site, that shows the transaction details.  
In case of a dispute a cryptographically secure ‘screenshot’ needs to be reviewed by the arbitrator.

It would be best pratice if you could test the procedure with [PageSigner](https://tlsnotary.org/pagesigner.html).

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**Author:** ![StefanGruber](https://bisq.community/letter_avatar/stefangruber/32/6_22734026db12803ebb3e059622ac3534.png) [@StefanGruber](https://bisq.community/u/StefanGruber)\
**Post date:** [December 27, 2016, 1:14pm UTC](https://bisq.community/t/is-it-possible-planned-to-add-goldmoney-support/1018/9 "2016-12-27T13:14:57Z")

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I can’t find anyone to send €5 worth of gold back and forth… and yes, I do have friends IRL, just not one that uses GoldMoney 😉

Is anybody willing to test it out? Maybe someone with a good reputation on this forum?

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**Author:** ![alf](https://bisq.community/letter_avatar/alf/32/6_22734026db12803ebb3e059622ac3534.png) [@alf](https://bisq.community/u/alf)\
**Post date:** [December 27, 2016, 2:13pm UTC](https://bisq.community/t/is-it-possible-planned-to-add-goldmoney-support/1018/10 "2016-12-27T14:13:26Z")

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I volunteer, send it to [alf.werrmann@gmx.net](mailto:alf.werrmann@gmx.net)

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**Author:** ![StefanGruber](https://bisq.community/letter_avatar/stefangruber/32/6_22734026db12803ebb3e059622ac3534.png) [@StefanGruber](https://bisq.community/u/StefanGruber)\
**Post date:** [December 27, 2016, 3:51pm UTC](https://bisq.community/t/is-it-possible-planned-to-add-goldmoney-support/1018/11 "2016-12-27T15:51:52Z")

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Sent. 0.143g Gold worth €5. The clearing house just has to settle the transaction now. (Edit: and it’s done. Less than 1 minute)

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**Author:** ![alf](https://bisq.community/letter_avatar/alf/32/6_22734026db12803ebb3e059622ac3534.png) [@alf](https://bisq.community/u/alf)\
**Post date:** [December 27, 2016, 4:25pm UTC](https://bisq.community/t/is-it-possible-planned-to-add-goldmoney-support/1018/12 "2016-12-27T16:25:18Z")

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and cheap compared to BTC, its zero!! 😉 (although not trustless … )

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**Author:** ![StefanGruber](https://bisq.community/letter_avatar/stefangruber/32/6_22734026db12803ebb3e059622ac3534.png) [@StefanGruber](https://bisq.community/u/StefanGruber)\
**Post date:** [December 27, 2016, 5:50pm UTC](https://bisq.community/t/is-it-possible-planned-to-add-goldmoney-support/1018/13 "2016-12-27T17:50:26Z")

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> [@marc](#):
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> PageSigner.

I couldn’t get PageSigner to work with [GoldMoney.com](http://GoldMoney.com). Is there a way to get the confirmation e-mail that they send you, which contains the transaction details, to be the proof of payment? The e-mails contain a DKIM-Signature. Is that usable in some sort?

EDIT: I saved the confirmation e-mail out of Thunderbird into a \*.eml-file and ran [dkimverify](http://baruch.siach.name/blog/posts/verify_dkim_signature_from_command_line/) on it, which proved to work, telling me the signature is ok. This should suffice, shouldn’t it? Manipulating the e-mail and running it through dkimverify again is caught by the mismatch of the signature.

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**Author:** ![alf](https://bisq.community/letter_avatar/alf/32/6_22734026db12803ebb3e059622ac3534.png) [@alf](https://bisq.community/u/alf)\
**Post date:** [December 27, 2016, 9:11pm UTC](https://bisq.community/t/is-it-possible-planned-to-add-goldmoney-support/1018/14 "2016-12-27T21:11:54Z")

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Guess the arbitrator is the best/only to answer that, what he will accept etc. Also the transaction overview that you can filter and PageSign might be an option. Anyway, its up to Manfred … you may send him an email with the info//file/data in question.
