# Small UI changes go here. Low hanging fruit

**URL:** <https://bisq.community/t/small-ui-changes-go-here-low-hanging-fruit/421>\
**Category:** Development\
**Created:** [August 8, 2016, 11:27am UTC](https://bisq.community/t/small-ui-changes-go-here-low-hanging-fruit/421 "2016-08-08T11:27:44Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 15\
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**Author:** ![dangermouse117](https://bisq.community/user_avatar/bisq.community/dangermouse117/32/214_2.png) [@dangermouse117](https://bisq.community/u/dangermouse117)\
**Post date:** [August 8, 2016, 11:27am UTC](https://bisq.community/t/small-ui-changes-go-here-low-hanging-fruit/421/1 "2016-08-08T11:27:44Z")

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I thought I’d start this thread for small improvement suggestions to the UI that hopefully aren’t out of the bandwidth of the dev capacity right now.

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**Author:** ![dangermouse117](https://bisq.community/user_avatar/bisq.community/dangermouse117/32/214_2.png) [@dangermouse117](https://bisq.community/u/dangermouse117)\
**Post date:** [August 8, 2016, 11:34am UTC](https://bisq.community/t/small-ui-changes-go-here-low-hanging-fruit/421/2 "2016-08-08T11:34:03Z")

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First off, the most confusing thing that could be fixed easily is the price quotes are the wrong way around and erroneous from proper forex/exchange convention.

Currently it’s displayed:

 ![](https://bisq.community/uploads/default/original/1X/41dbd89441b87e46e387f892399d1f816450bf5b.jpg)

The correct way is:  
593.83 **BTC/USD**  
535.51 **BTC/EUR**  
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**0.0316499** XMR/BTC  
**0.0173109** DASH/BTC  
.  
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Fiat is usually quoted BTC / Fiat  
Altcoins is usually quoted Alt / BTC

Numerically, I like to think of it as one currency divided by the other, so more valuable currency like BTC divided by less valuable currency USD yields \>1 and vice versa.

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**Author:** ![ManfredKarrer](https://bisq.community/user_avatar/bisq.community/manfredkarrer/32/26_2.png) [@ManfredKarrer](https://bisq.community/u/ManfredKarrer)\
**Post date:** [August 8, 2016, 12:32pm UTC](https://bisq.community/t/small-ui-changes-go-here-low-hanging-fruit/421/3 "2016-08-08T12:32:27Z")

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I know that but can you explain me what math has created that notation BTC/EUR if it means 600 EUR per BTC? I use in the create offer screen a simple math formula like form:  
I buy 1 BTC for 600 EUR/BTC (EUR per BTC) wich results in 600 EUR i need to spend.  
1BTC \* 600 EUR/BTC = 600 EUR  
I think that is very straight. If I change to the finance worlds inverted logic that cannot be used anymore.

I think they have historical reasons. But I don’t see too much reason to help them to replicate mistakes forever.

With the altcoins it is planned to invert the price display so currently 50 ETH/BTC will be 0.02 BTC/ETH in future.

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**Author:** ![dangermouse117](https://bisq.community/user_avatar/bisq.community/dangermouse117/32/214_2.png) [@dangermouse117](https://bisq.community/u/dangermouse117)\
**Post date:** [August 8, 2016, 7:57pm UTC](https://bisq.community/t/small-ui-changes-go-here-low-hanging-fruit/421/4 "2016-08-08T19:57:59Z")

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It’s not maths. It’s ISO standards:

> **[Currency pair](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Currency_pair)**
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> A currency pair is the quotation of the relative value of a currency unit against the unit of another currency in the foreign exchange market. The currency that is used as the reference is called the counter currency, quote currency or currency and the currency that is quoted in relation is called the base currency or transaction currency.
> Currency pairs are generally written by concatenating the ISO currency codes (ISO 4217) of the base currency and the counter currency, and then separating t...

  

> **[ISO 4217](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/ISO_4217)**
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> ISO 4217 is a standard first published by International Organization for Standardization in 1978, which delineates currency designators, country codes (alpha and numeric), and references to minor units in three tables:
> The tables, history and ongoing discussion are maintained by SIX Interbank Clearing on behalf of ISO and the Swiss Association for Standardization.

This aside, I’m a UX designer - and in terms of UX, the goal is to present to the user what they expect so it achieves a feeling of familiarity - even though it may not concur to the technical model.

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**Author:** ![ManfredKarrer](https://bisq.community/user_avatar/bisq.community/manfredkarrer/32/26_2.png) [@ManfredKarrer](https://bisq.community/u/ManfredKarrer)\
**Post date:** [August 8, 2016, 10:57pm UTC](https://bisq.community/t/small-ui-changes-go-here-low-hanging-fruit/421/5 "2016-08-08T22:57:37Z")

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Will consider to make it adjustable in the settings so user can define what they prefer.  
I agree its good to follow standards, but it is a question if our main target are pro trader used to that strange notation or users who are not familiar with that and then the mathematiclly logical notation used now is much more intuitive.

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**Author:** ![indiamikezulu](https://bisq.community/letter_avatar/indiamikezulu/32/6_22734026db12803ebb3e059622ac3534.png) [@indiamikezulu](https://bisq.community/u/indiamikezulu)\
**Post date:** [August 8, 2016, 11:57pm UTC](https://bisq.community/t/small-ui-changes-go-here-low-hanging-fruit/421/6 "2016-08-08T23:57:02Z")

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One: well done, Dangermouse! This is ‘the editing of prose’ thang that I asked about recently – _and Manfred responded so positively to._ There is a tremendous amount to be gained by increasing user-friendliness on Bitsquare!

Two: I see, for example, ‘Price in AUD/BTC.’ This is a _notation_. But we could use _prose_ instead: ‘The $AUD price of one BTC is XYZ.’

Three: _let us be unendingly patient with each other here!_ We’ve wandered into the minefield of ‘prescriptivism’ _versus_ ‘descriptivism.’ Emotional stuff. Convention (‘ . . . to present to the user what they expect so it achieves a feeling of familiarity . . . ‘) is the lodestone of language. But does that convention come from the ‘praxis’ (daily speech) of the native speakers of the language? Or from an organization? (Descriptivists say, ‘Native speakers!’ Prescriptivists say, ‘Organisation!’)

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**Author:** ![indiamikezulu](https://bisq.community/letter_avatar/indiamikezulu/32/6_22734026db12803ebb3e059622ac3534.png) [@indiamikezulu](https://bisq.community/u/indiamikezulu)\
**Post date:** [August 12, 2016, 1:17am UTC](https://bisq.community/t/small-ui-changes-go-here-low-hanging-fruit/421/7 "2016-08-12T01:17:10Z")

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‘Create new offer for buying Bitcoin (selling Dogecoin)’ would conventionally be ‘Create offer to buy Bitcoin with Dogecoin.’

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**Author:** ![dangermouse117](https://bisq.community/user_avatar/bisq.community/dangermouse117/32/214_2.png) [@dangermouse117](https://bisq.community/u/dangermouse117)\
**Post date:** [August 12, 2016, 12:16pm UTC](https://bisq.community/t/small-ui-changes-go-here-low-hanging-fruit/421/8 "2016-08-12T12:16:40Z")

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Side note, it’s not low hanging fruit but…

IMO Bitsquare doesn’t have the volume, liquidity nor the speed to represent itself with a traders/exchange interface with candlesticks and order depth which is uselessly confusing to most people except traders. And no trader would use Bitsquare with its current liquidity levels.

For the foreseeable future (say a year or more), it would make more sense to follow a really really simple ShapeShift style interface.

![](https://bisq.community/uploads/default/original/1X/8bd118215fa22d36234064375e649dad1ecb0772.jpg)

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**Author:** ![indiamikezulu](https://bisq.community/letter_avatar/indiamikezulu/32/6_22734026db12803ebb3e059622ac3534.png) [@indiamikezulu](https://bisq.community/u/indiamikezulu)\
**Post date:** [August 13, 2016, 3:39am UTC](https://bisq.community/t/small-ui-changes-go-here-low-hanging-fruit/421/9 "2016-08-13T03:39:34Z")

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I agree with dangermouse on this one. The Greater Issue is, of course: ‘What do we want from cryptos?’ (fast sleazy riches? to provide competition for banks? to lay those banks low? to further a decentralised Internet? combinations of these?)

My personal First Base is: _using cryptos as currencies in an environment not characterised by the sleaziness entailed by automated-exchange centrality_. Thus, for me,a minor paradox – using Bitsquare is presently a not-for-the-guy-next-door undertaking – so we’re gonna help them! At every turn.

IndiaMikeZulu has been crashing about in the undergrowth, running low-budget-no-budget experiments in crypto adoption since 2013. We taken a long series of knocks, but now have first-hand experience of a wide range of the problems. Bitsquare is heaven sent, and we’ll work to integrate it into our model.

[ '[Anecdote: when we were running the ‘Denmark, Western Australia, Crypto Town Project’ in late 2013, we set up a well-advertised faucet. One thing we promised was 10,000 Dogecoin (our ‘training-coin,’ our ‘familiarisation coin’ – had an android wallet) for ‘anyone who lives in Denmark.’

Well, one morning on Reddit I found a post that went something like: ‘Ya. My name being Sven. I am from Denmark coming. Am I having 10,000 Dogecoin?’ I rolled about laughing. Gave Sven his Doge. And more to two other Danes who turned up. Then I explained that ‘Denmark’ is actually a little town on the very bottom left-hand corner of Australia.

And as part of this Project, we paid to have flyers distributed to every P.O. Box in Denmark. It’s cheap, and you put the flyers in the hands of the economic players in the town.]

Mark’]

[http://cryptomoms.com/forum/dnotes/28/crisp-for-students-flyer/938/](http://cryptomoms.com/forum/dnotes/28/crisp-for-students-flyer/938/)

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**Author:** ![sjon](https://bisq.community/user_avatar/bisq.community/sjon/32/106_2.png) [@sjon](https://bisq.community/u/sjon)\
**Post date:** [August 13, 2016, 11:19am UTC](https://bisq.community/t/small-ui-changes-go-here-low-hanging-fruit/421/10 "2016-08-13T11:19:50Z")

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I think this list can greatly benefit from another minor tweak: alignment. If the text was aligned right, or even justified it’s much easier to scan through

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**Author:** ![coinstash](https://bisq.community/user_avatar/bisq.community/coinstash/32/213_2.png) [@coinstash](https://bisq.community/u/coinstash)\
**Post date:** [September 22, 2016, 3:35pm UTC](https://bisq.community/t/small-ui-changes-go-here-low-hanging-fruit/421/11 "2016-09-22T15:35:08Z")

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Cool idea. Next time I’m in NZ I’ll do that for the little town where I bought my holiday shack. Could be an interesting social experiment …

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**Author:** ![dangermouse117](https://bisq.community/user_avatar/bisq.community/dangermouse117/32/214_2.png) [@dangermouse117](https://bisq.community/u/dangermouse117)\
**Post date:** [September 22, 2016, 3:59pm UTC](https://bisq.community/t/small-ui-changes-go-here-low-hanging-fruit/421/12 "2016-09-22T15:59:08Z")

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What town? I’m a kiwi, not in NZ too.

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**Author:** ![coinstash](https://bisq.community/user_avatar/bisq.community/coinstash/32/213_2.png) [@coinstash](https://bisq.community/u/coinstash)\
**Post date:** [September 23, 2016, 11:47am UTC](https://bisq.community/t/small-ui-changes-go-here-low-hanging-fruit/421/13 "2016-09-23T11:47:08Z")

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Wairoa bro. Rocketship central.

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**Author:** ![dangermouse117](https://bisq.community/user_avatar/bisq.community/dangermouse117/32/214_2.png) [@dangermouse117](https://bisq.community/u/dangermouse117)\
**Post date:** [September 23, 2016, 7:43pm UTC](https://bisq.community/t/small-ui-changes-go-here-low-hanging-fruit/421/14 "2016-09-23T19:43:49Z")

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East Cape is under represented.

You should put your shack on CoinMap.

See that blip on the Coromandel? That’s mine.  
 ![](https://bisq.community/uploads/default/original/1X/e6a9cca259a617e90249b3b70b1a2d4dc65c7636.jpg)

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**Author:** ![coinstash](https://bisq.community/user_avatar/bisq.community/coinstash/32/213_2.png) [@coinstash](https://bisq.community/u/coinstash)\
**Post date:** [September 23, 2016, 10:58pm UTC](https://bisq.community/t/small-ui-changes-go-here-low-hanging-fruit/421/15 "2016-09-23T22:58:45Z")

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My ‘blip’ is currently north of Brisbane, I live on a yacht in Oz.
