@sdc
How is it possible for the receiver to prove that the envelope was empty and not that he emptied before “recording” the proof?
I see the problem.
@BitConcerned
A least it is needed that everytime the envelope was sent intact.
Anyway, I think that it’s interesting to see if this way is viable
EDIT:
There is also the “international money order” (always through postal service) , active at least in Europe it seems, but it is more traceable than the common mail.
haha sorry, now i realized i thought it the other way. But yea this is a good question, on Localbitcoins and other shops it does work also… sure the buyer is at risk… everytime and everywhere, but you can minimal the risk. And this works best with a good reputation system, thats why amazon, ebay and other marketplaces are adopted. Because its good for the conscience to have experience reports, sure you can still scam after you traded 500 times, but it isnt worth it, unless you would exit scam, But still only 1 is damaged instead of many (centralized)
I’ve asked to my postal service, and they suggested me to use the assured mail.
The assured mail solution is good because the postal service make more checks on the integrity of the envelope/package, because it is in their interest to avoid being scammed them self (example: assured empty mails)
I don’t know if the assured mail service is available everywhere, but I’m enough sure that it is available in all European countries.
I think that it should be added as a payment system.
Maybe users should be able to indicate (if they want) where are they sending from, so the receiver can choose to accept only mail from their same country.
If the mail arrive from a different country from the one indicated (so the sender has lied), even before opening it the receiver can ask the intervention of the arbiter.
It is illegal in 42 countries. Maybe it’s OK in Italy, but what about the destination address?
Postal sorting machinery detects the metal stripes and will reject it for manual inspection. In Australia customs have confiscated money sent this way. Also, postal workers have been known to steal it.
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It is illegal in 42 countries
[/quote]Can you back this statement with something?
There are some ways to avoid that the money can be seen through the envelope, and as I said, the “assured mail” form is the good way to add a risk for any postal workers in the middle.
If you’re going to send it by insured mail there’s no financial advantage from using a banking service. It may not be illegal to post cash where you live, but just about everyone would agree it’s stupid.
There is NO WAY you can confirm if it was received without registered mail that requires a signature. Convenient? No. Traceable? Yes.
[quote=“coinstash, post:14, topic:570, full:true”]
If you’re going to send it by insured mail there’s no financial advantage from using a banking service. It may not be illegal to post cash where you live, but just about everyone would agree it’s stupid.
There is NO WAY you can confirm if it was received without registered mail that requires a signature. Convenient? No. Traceable? Yes.[/quote]
It is not traceable if you don’t say to everyone that you are sending money, isn’t this obvious?
Anyway, I’ve found the page that article refers to:
I see Australia is on the list too. Officially it is ‘tolerated’ here for small amounts sent between local addresses. After all, you can’t deny grandma the right to send $10.00 and a card for your birthday. But cash from international sources WILL BE CONFISCATED if found by Customs.
The Royal Mail list is accurate but they should have said “countries where it is illegal or restrictions are applied”.